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[edit]Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 16 Feb 2017 at 15:12:34 (UTC)
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Objects#Tools
Info All by me. – LucasT 15:12, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Support – LucasT 15:12, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
The meticulously stacked photograph of that weird looking tool has an outstanding image quality - but I really can't come to terms with this kind of totally artificial background. Yes, it's much cleaner, smoother, and thus far more perfect than any real sheet of black paper/carton/cloth could ever be. But it also lacks character, sorry. This could easily be fixed, however... ;-) --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 16:06, 7 February 2017 (UTC)Oppose
- @Martin Falbisoner: Please be aware—if you aren't already—that my solid color backgrounds can be achieved in the studio rather easily and without any reflections or shadows (I can explain how). Just to clarify that what I do here doesn't need to be made in editing. Also there are a lot of existing FPs with such backgrounds, not from me. The shells by Llez, coins, sculptures, computers, a whole engine, watches, musical instruments, jewelry, stones, crystals and some more. The background of many of those is equally character-less than this one. Obviously I like these backgrounds as they allow maximum attention to the main subject. I chose dark grey here because the object has black and white areas that need to stand out. If you would require shadows to "fix" the image, I couldn't add them, because the way I shot this I don't have shadows or reflections:
– LucasT 16:28, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your explanation. I'd still prefer a more "vivid" background, e.g. like this one, but I'll change my vote to
weak support as I really appreciate the outstanding quality of your stacking technique. --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 17:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your explanation. I'd still prefer a more "vivid" background, e.g. like this one, but I'll change my vote to
- Good shot of bike tools. I could support, but you should make compo diagonal. I would put bottom tool a little bit to the left, and add some background all around (some 100 px) except to the left. I think shadow isnt important here, gray back work. --Mile (talk) 16:54, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- @PetarM: I don't really want to break the alignment of them which is why they are placed the way they are, but I tightened the crop a bit to place these two closer to the diagonal. Do you have strong arguments against the current composition? – LucasT 17:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Support Fine with me, but still think some 30–50 px border could make it less tight. --Mile (talk) 17:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Support --Yann (talk) 19:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Support - Crop is a little tight at the bottom, but really superb quality. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Support Your photos of hardware and mine are at the opposite ends of a spectrum. Yours are precise, tight and almost clinical while mine are all about mood, space and light. We need both. I would say these exact representations are sort of the 3D equivalent of all the photographs of "Static non-photographic media". Photos of those need to be exact and depict the artwork in a objective manner. With all the new possibilities that focus stacking and better cameras bring, we are seeing more and more of these outstanding photos. It would be unproductive to say no to all of these contributions just because it is hard to make them artistically pleasing and we don't know where to put them. I think it is time for a new sub-section of FP:COM, something like "Commons:Featured pictures/Technical". I would be very happy to review photos of things the same way I review a photo of a painting to see if it is perfectly true to the original artwork. --cart-Talk 10:03, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- @W.carter: Thanks for your thoughts. I was thinking about bringing your suggestion to the FPC talk page, but then I went through the FP categories again and these solid color BG product shots just don't look out of place to me, they just belong next to the "more natural background" shots. What I think is happening as well is that my subjects aren't very rare or special (the old discussion about criticising the subject together with the photographic qualities) so some people don't feel much when looking at these familiar objects regardless of the quality—in comparison to a vintage camera which might evoke memories or some other cool or unusual thing. And my lighting can never have a wow factor because it is there to light the subject evenly, accentuate features, but never more than that. I don't have a good solution, maybe new FP categories, maybe some comments on this type of photography in the FPC guidelines, or new "RQI"–reference-quality-images ;) – LucasT 14:42, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- This idea occurred to me while I was reviewing this image and I think this needs some more comments and more discussions, so I'm going to copy our conversation from this page to the more appropriate FPC talk page where such discussions belong. Hope that's ok with you. --cart-Talk 15:43, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Support --Llez (talk) 12:44, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Support Daniel Case (talk) 00:42, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Support --Karelj (talk) 21:49, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Support lNeverCry 09:38, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Objects